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	<title>Comments on: Why Barney Frank&#8217;s Phony AIG Outrage is Worse Than the Bonuses</title>
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		<title>By: Wednesday&#8217;s Links Value Plays</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wednesday&#8217;s Links Value Plays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - BS outrage at AIG [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chas.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chas.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ol&#039; Barn would probably love an AIG &quot;bone-ass&quot;.
What a stand-up guy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ol&#8217; Barn would probably love an AIG &#8220;bone-ass&#8221;.<br />
What a stand-up guy!</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>elmer fudd is on the loose. vote him down and out now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>elmer fudd is on the loose. vote him down and out now.</p>
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		<title>By: Lubna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lubna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi TaxRascal,
I noticed you had linked one of my posts, this is how I got here. Interesting website and I would like to share it with my readers. Would you mind if I blogrolled you? Lemme know by posting a reply on my tax blog.
Best
Lubna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi TaxRascal,<br />
I noticed you had linked one of my posts, this is how I got here. Interesting website and I would like to share it with my readers. Would you mind if I blogrolled you? Lemme know by posting a reply on my tax blog.<br />
Best<br />
Lubna</p>
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		<title>By: Rocketeer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocketeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Please explain why this would be a bad thing…&quot;

Because on the consumer side, that means a bunch of actuarial tables that reflect a reactionary aversion to even minimal risk, life insurance policies don&#039;t get sold to people who in reality should be legitimately eligible, and a frozen currency market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Please explain why this would be a bad thing…&#8221;</p>
<p>Because on the consumer side, that means a bunch of actuarial tables that reflect a reactionary aversion to even minimal risk, life insurance policies don&#8217;t get sold to people who in reality should be legitimately eligible, and a frozen currency market.</p>
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		<title>By: NerdAlert</title>
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		<dc:creator>NerdAlert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 02:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If we end up cutting the pay of lots of actuaries, life insurance salesmen, and currency hedgers, so we can feel good about punishing credit derivatives traders, we’ll feel good but be worse off.&quot;

We&#039;ll also end up with a bunch of actuaries, life insurance salesmen, and currency hedgers who are hyper-vigilant about shady behavior by their future employers out of fear that they will be burned in another company collapse. 

Please explain why this would be a bad thing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If we end up cutting the pay of lots of actuaries, life insurance salesmen, and currency hedgers, so we can feel good about punishing credit derivatives traders, we’ll feel good but be worse off.&#8221;</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll also end up with a bunch of actuaries, life insurance salesmen, and currency hedgers who are hyper-vigilant about shady behavior by their future employers out of fear that they will be burned in another company collapse. </p>
<p>Please explain why this would be a bad thing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NerdAlert</title>
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		<dc:creator>NerdAlert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 02:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;it’s much more likely that the bonus recipients aren’t the same team at all. AIG has a huge variety of insurance businesses, and it invests the proceeds from its insurance in an incredible array of assets.&quot;

So what? In the real world when the company you work for blows up you are screwed no matter how good a job *YOU* did. Everyone gets spanked. That&#039;s why it makes sense to pay attention to your surroundings.

&quot;If AIG doesn’t do something to keep them on board, the company will be reduced to a pile of liabilities managed by mediocre employees...&quot;

Yes, in the real world that&#039;s what happens to companies that blow themselves up. The talent leaves to work for economically viable organizations. Again, so what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it’s much more likely that the bonus recipients aren’t the same team at all. AIG has a huge variety of insurance businesses, and it invests the proceeds from its insurance in an incredible array of assets.&#8221;</p>
<p>So what? In the real world when the company you work for blows up you are screwed no matter how good a job *YOU* did. Everyone gets spanked. That&#8217;s why it makes sense to pay attention to your surroundings.</p>
<p>&#8220;If AIG doesn’t do something to keep them on board, the company will be reduced to a pile of liabilities managed by mediocre employees&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, in the real world that&#8217;s what happens to companies that blow themselves up. The talent leaves to work for economically viable organizations. Again, so what?</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; Refer Barney Frank to House Ethics Committee</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; Refer Barney Frank to House Ethics Committee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] learning of Frank&#8217;s outrage over AIG, I decided to do something I had intended to do when the Democrat&#8217;s conflict of interest came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] learning of Frank&#8217;s outrage over AIG, I decided to do something I had intended to do when the Democrat&#8217;s conflict of interest came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TaxRascal</title>
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		<dc:creator>TaxRascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kay:

Thanks for chiming in!

I think the we&#039;re drifting away from the important question: do the bonuses make economic sense? If we end up cutting the pay of lots of actuaries, life insurance salesmen, and currency hedgers, so we can feel good about punishing credit derivatives traders, we&#039;ll feel good but be worse off. Lots of companies pay their employees extremely high bonuses even parts of the firm are doing badly (this is how Wall Street behaved when the banks were private partnerships -- when the only money they had belonged to the people who ran the companies).

It&#039;s good to be outraged at government waste, but we&#039;re just looking at the cost side of things. It&#039;s like being mad that the Pentagon spent $500, before knowing whether what they got for it was a fancy screwdriver or a new stealth bomber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kay:</p>
<p>Thanks for chiming in!</p>
<p>I think the we&#8217;re drifting away from the important question: do the bonuses make economic sense? If we end up cutting the pay of lots of actuaries, life insurance salesmen, and currency hedgers, so we can feel good about punishing credit derivatives traders, we&#8217;ll feel good but be worse off. Lots of companies pay their employees extremely high bonuses even parts of the firm are doing badly (this is how Wall Street behaved when the banks were private partnerships &#8212; when the only money they had belonged to the people who ran the companies).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to be outraged at government waste, but we&#8217;re just looking at the cost side of things. It&#8217;s like being mad that the Pentagon spent $500, before knowing whether what they got for it was a fancy screwdriver or a new stealth bomber.</p>
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		<title>By: frankg</title>
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		<dc:creator>frankg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t give them the money. That isn&#039;t hard. Just too hard for Washington, DC. If we didn&#039;t give them the money, we wouldn&#039;t have to worry about this, and what probably is a bunch of deliberate staged warfare against big business/etc. to distract from the plundering continuing in Washington, DC. 
obama: look at meee! I&#039;m outraged! 
Didn&#039;t anyone read the fine print on this deal when it was passed? 
Did they really NOT know it would happen?
Don&#039;t give them the money. But no, the circus that brought us affordable housing is going to fix this latest crisis. The big caper continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t give them the money. That isn&#8217;t hard. Just too hard for Washington, DC. If we didn&#8217;t give them the money, we wouldn&#8217;t have to worry about this, and what probably is a bunch of deliberate staged warfare against big business/etc. to distract from the plundering continuing in Washington, DC.<br />
obama: look at meee! I&#8217;m outraged!<br />
Didn&#8217;t anyone read the fine print on this deal when it was passed?<br />
Did they really NOT know it would happen?<br />
Don&#8217;t give them the money. But no, the circus that brought us affordable housing is going to fix this latest crisis. The big caper continues.</p>
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